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Brave new Denmark...Brev fra en englænder(på engelsk)

27. januar 2009 05:22
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Fandt dette indlæg på et andet forum, og jeg ganske spændene syn på os danskere, fra en englænder som boet her et stykke tid...

Beklager mange gange det er på engelsk......

Publiceret på Rense.com hvor ca 10 millioner Amerikanere læser med plus millioner af andre...en meget " værd at læse" kommentar om BRAVE NEW DENMARK.

Brave New Denmark -
A Model For The USA?

By Ted Twietmeyer
1-8-8


Recently, I received an email from a former London Police officer, Philip Jones. Philip has given me permission to use his email and his full name. His powerful and highly articulate essay describes in detail what life in Denmark is like today, after living there more than ten years. Many of us have our own internal visions of what foreign countries are like which we may never have the opportunity to visit. These ideas are most often based on the media and classes in school. But it was a total surprise about what Philip had to say about Denmark and it's amazing placid lifestyle. I'll never look at a tin of Christmas cookies made in Denmark the same!

Most people are quite aware that the UK is a model police state, tightening the screws a little more each day on its citizens. One could easily think that Denmark and perhaps other EU countries are following the same model. What we learn from Philip's detailed description of Denmark is that this is not the case. Denmark is a country with the most passive people one could ever imagine. How this mindset was accomplished is a bit of a mystery. Perhaps the globalists found every weakness in Danish culture, exploiting each one to the fullest. It does appear it to be like Philip has named his essay, "Brave New Denmark."

The United States is turning into a hybrid of the UK and Denmark. New laws have been passes to help control what everyone thinks in the United States, while at the same time doing everything possible to help the people ignore the effects of growing government behind the scenes. Draconian laws are quickly and easily passed by formulating excuses or events so people will not grumble too much. If everyone in the United States were as dedicated to the Constitution and Bill of Rights as Ron Paul supporters are, none of this would be happening.

Today sports scores, video games and the internet are all that most people care about. They no longer care about each other or what big government is doing to them. A non-caring state of mind is also the same characteristic the Danes have as Philip so eloquently expresses. So without further delay, here is Philip's unedited email:


'Brave New Denmark'

Dear Ted,

Before I begin, perhaps I should tell you something about myself. I am a 49 year old British man, married to a Danish lady and living in Denmark. Prior to moving here back in 1996, I had spent 15 years as Police Officer in London and before that 6 years in the military.

I was raised in the industrial area of South Wales and come from `blue collar` stock. Up until quite recently, I had been a believer in the `democratic` process and a staunch conservative.

My awakening began upon my relocation to this small, cold northern country. Up until then, I had `bought` into the consensus viewpoint, and although as a serving officer in London, I had been aware of all the rapid changes taking place in society, I had not realised that these changes were orchestrated and designed, as opposed to `evolutionary`.

I had imagined that Denmark would be little more than a smaller version of my homeland. My wife was/is not much different in views and culture from myself, and our countries shared a joint history. For the first half year or so, I didn't take too much notice of my surroundings, as we were occupied with the day to day business of setting up our home and all those other mundane necessities.

It was when I was able to sit back and take note of my new environment that I was struck immediately at how different Danes were from British people. My wife had lived in the UK for some years and I soon learned that she was not typical of her country folk. The most immediate, and annoying character trait I noticed was the habitual need Danes have to tell other people how wonderful Denmark is, and how much better everything is compared to other places. To even the casual onlooker, it was clear that they were deeply delusional.

Denmark is an okay place, but no better and a degree worse than some places. It is small, with a population of around 5,000,000. Until very recently, it has been very homogenous, (and to a great extent still is) and somewhat isolated, tucked away as it is up on the top edge of Europe. In fact, if one wished to conduct a `social experiment`, few places would be better suited, or located. Add to this the truth that Danish people are by nature in awe of authority, compliant and passive. Forget the `Vikings` of yore. Most of them settled in Britain, Northern France and down the Volga.

I began to question this pride in all things Danish. The food variety and quality was nothing like as good as in the UK. The public infrastructure was inadequate, and oh so slow. Monopoly was the name of the game in business. No competition whatsoever. Danish produce and Danish produce only was the rule of things. The sheer cost of living in the place was/is at least 2-3 times that of the UK, and yet everyone was asking me so proudly if I felt lucky to be living in Denmark. Then there is the much vaunted Danish Medical System. Again according to Danes `the best in the world`. But that's just the thing, it wasn't/isn't and the standards are dropping continually, whilst the costs of prescription medicine and Dental care, even on the back of this `public health service` are out of control.

As a former London Police Officer, I was often asked to give lectures at Odense University, on matters relating to crime etc. Over the next few years, I gave dozens of these presentations, and was shocked at how unquestioning and compliant young Danish people were. They were immune even to provocation, which I used on several occasions in order to get a response, but usually to no avail. I was able to attend several classes over this period, and was appalled and shocked at the levels of Marxist/Feminist views being foisted on the young people. The history of their country prior to the end of WWII is just not taught at all, and very few Danes have any grasp of their country's past. Almost all the teachers were female (of a sort), and the classes themselves were overwhelmingly populated by girls. Almost every lecture I attended was weighted heavily towards a `European` future, and very few were not heavily biased in that direction. And yet, pardoxically, the `Denmark is the best country in the world, with the best education system, best medical system, best social system, best economy, ad nauseum was also a constant theme. This is the same message transmitted through every media outlet, and Danes take love of flag to a new height, even decorating Xmas trees and birthday cakes with that national banner. This apparent contradiction, caused me great confusion at the time, but no longer. Today, I understand.

This acceptance/compliance extended into society in general, where complaints against the system of any kind were in very short supply, or non existent to be truthful. With every new law, or government inspired price increase or tax hike, would come the standard response "there's nothing you can do about" or in Danish, "Saadan er Danmark", which literally means, "that's how it is in Denmark".

Denmark is the country of rules. There are rules for everything here. Even the rules seem to have rules, and the people have an annoying way of interfering in each others lives to the point of self regulation. One of the world's smallest countries has one of the `biggest` governments, and `The State` is by far the biggest employer here, so people depend upon it for their livelihood.

The ID Card was introduced to Denmark back in the 1970's. Every Dane, or foreign resident here has a `personal number` and unlike the `National Insurance` number in the US or UK, it must be quoted in order to do almost everything. One cannot get a bank account, travel, do business of any kind, learn to drive, drive, be educated etc etc. without it. It masquerades as a health insurance card, but has a far more all encompassing purpose. It is also backed up by a national register data base. The coming Biometric model will simply be accepted as an `improvement` and or progress.

Conformity in all things is the way of life here. People dress the same, cut their hair the same, eat the same, do the same, like the same, say exactly the same phrases, in fact, modern Danish is more a language of phraseology than anything else (Newspeak ?). They like the same food (and will serve the same `fayre` to guests every time, no matter which Danish home one visits). An evening out at a Danish household, could/can be scripted beforehand, from start to end.

Danish women and girls have with a few exceptions, become almost androgynous in appearance, and most are fiercely feminist in their views, actions and manners. Danish men are for the most part emasculated. Danes love their country, but will not fight for it. Danes loathe all things foreign, and resist all such influences, to the point where their shops have very little on the shelves, and what there is is rediculously expensive, and yet, they absolutely fail to recognise or resist the looming shadow of the European Superstate, still believing it to be something they can just walk away from when they have had enough.

Danes rarely smile, are very reserved to the point of being rude, and yet, a recent (ish) opinion poll carried out throughout the EU showed them to be the most content of Europe's people. It was this that really got my juices flowing. Danes had been telling me for nearly eight years that `they had it so good`. But they didn't. Not at all. They had it good like a bird in a cage has it good.

I had the feeling even back then that if one made too many comments of an unfavourable `Anti Denmark`nature, then just maybe my residiency might be revoked, or I might come into contact with the `State Authorities`, (Danes are encouraged to `Spy` on each other and do so with gusto). Of course no such thing occured, but the feeling was there. Such is the insideous nature of Danish society, which heralds `Free speech` as an inalienable right (As in the Mohammad Drawings) and yet damns that same `free Speech` to foreigners or dissenters

By the end of the 1990's, I had begun to understand the extent to which the Danish population had been completely indoctrinated. Any form of criticism was fiercly resented. Nobody ever complained about anything of an official nature. Nearly everybody I knew, or those I saw speaking on TV seemed to believe that the Danish Government wished only good things for them. That the ever burgeoning tax burden was necessary, even a good thing. We are speaking of an income tax of on average 50% plus a sales tax of 25%. This level of taxation is across the board, and includes tax on cars, houses, food, and well, everything you can imagine could be taxed is taxed and then some. And all prices on all things rise on 31st January every year, without fail. This is just understood and accepted without comment by the majority of the people. "Saadan er Danmark".

When my wife and I tried to explain to people that in the UK, we paid a fraction of the Danish tax burden, and still managed at least a parity in social welfare, and medical care, they wouldn't believe it. When we told them that the food in DK was of an inferior quality, with no variety and rediculously priced. They again wouldn't hear of it. I just could not be.

We travelled to the US three times between 1996 and 2001 spending a total of fourteen weeks there and travelling some six thousand miles. Those three `trips` were milestones in my life, and I was bursting with tales of our adventures, but upon returning to DK, not one Danish friend or family member showed any interest whatsoever in our stories. It was as if we had never been away. The only people who were at all interested were our `international` contacts.

Now, I might be rambling at this point, but what I am trying to depict here is a society quite unlike anywhere else, even by European standards, Denmark is different. If it isn't Danish or Denmark, then they cannot contemplate it at all.

I felt totally disaffected with the country, and at that time, even with no knowledge whatsoever of any `Global Conspiracy`, would say things to friends such as; " These are not people, they're like `Body Snatchers`", or "There must be something in the water here", and even "It's in the food they eat". Little did I understand how close to the truth I was.

Then I started to put the pieces together; the inertia of the youth, the conformity of it's citizens. The `blind` obedience of the populace. The apparent contentment being voiced, which was in obvious conflict with the miserable demeanour of Danish people. The narrow, insulated `bubble` view of the world around them. The conditioned state of national denial, refusing to admit even the possibility that some place else might be in some way better. And the absolute kicker; the Danish obsession with work. It is the only thing they talk about. To work is everything, and if one is not in work, then one is a member of a trade union, which will find some way of ensuring that one has little or no spare time to think and consider life, and what is happening all around.

In 2003, I read Sen. Pat Buchannan's book, `The Death Of The West`. This work set me on the path to discovery, and although I have moved a little beyond it, the facts and ideas expressed by the author were in many cases highly relevant to my experiences in Denmark. But the point is this; on page 77, Sen. Buchanan at the top of the page makes this quote, "The perfect totalitarian state, is one where the all powerful political bosses, and their army of managers, control a population of slaves, who do not have to be coerced because they love their servitude". This is from Aldous Huxleys nightmare novel `Brave New World`, and it describes Danes and Denmark almost to a tee.

I spoke to my wife about this, and she told me that she had read the book. That in fact it was required reading at `Upper level` schooling. You see Ted, that is it. Denmark is `Brave New World`. I set about reading `the work`, and it chilled me to see all the parallels with Danish Society.

They have introduced so much of it here. The mindless compliance and conformity, the androgyny, the totally passive and non agitative demeanour. The all pervading Social State. The Brain washing and categorisng of students within the education or rather, `State indoctrination` program`. The resorting to the use of `Psycho Analysis` for any form of `anti social` behaviour, which can be nothing more than daring to publicly criticise the state, or asking awkward questions, or young males playing around in classrooms. The prescription of `happy pills` to supposedly depressed people or in other words, anyone who begins to see what it is that surrounds them. The Mass Media, State Education, State Health Service and all the other avenues of public information tell the same story incessantly. Denmark is the best country, Danes are the best at everything. All things Danish, are better than those which are non Danish. It has created a people so `dumbed down`, so afraid, so passive, so paradoxically proud yet obviously suffering from a deep seated inferiority complex. Arrogant, yet totally lacking in self confidence. Put another way, this is one `mucked up place`.

No need of `Tasers`, or heavy handed Police tactics here. Not much evidence of surveillance cameras either. If the government says inject your kids with this or that drug, Danes will do it because the government told them to. When the time comes to be microchipped, the State will tell them it's for the best and they will do it without question. Simply without question.

Joseph Goebbels said, " Propaganda must be able to be understood by even the most stupid members of society. Then you can make people believe that paradise is hell, and hell is paradise".

Denmark is not quite `hell`, but it's on it's way there. Yesterday, another `BS` news report told Danish people than the reason the cost of food had risen so much was because of problems in Australia and Nigeria. Well then, that's okay then isn't it. We just have to suck it up, there's nothing we can do about it`. The State has explained why we now pay almost double what most people are paying in the rest of Europe for food, Electricity.oil, clothing, transport, tax etc. etc.

The fools just accept it. Nobody asks "What has Australia and Nigeria got to do with a 25% price rise in the cost of Danish Dairy Products, Bacon, Meats, Bread and the spectrum of food stuffs produced in Denmark" ? They are told it's down to a recession, or inflation, or some other (bogus) cyclical economic phenomenon. But the point is, nobody asks any questions. They are simply `content in their servitude`.

Recently, the Danish Prime Minister signed the EU Reform Treaty. Then without bursting into fits of laughter told the Danish people that there would be no referendum on this `Treaty` as it did not affect Danish sovereignty. This is clearly a `bare faced` lie, as once ratified, it will remove Denmarks ablity to decide it's own economy, justice system, home affairs, defence and a whole lot more. In other words, Denmark will be a nation no more, except in the daydreams of it's prozac popping citizenry. When I have tried to explain this to people here, they say things like "No, our Prime Minister would never do that. He would never sign such a document". Them when told he already has, I get, "Ah well, we can always withdraw later if it doesn't work out".

But that's just the point, they won't be able to. Short of declaring armed resistance, and that's just not the Danish way. To a Dane, raising one's tone a little above whisper level is considered displaying anger. The `Feminazi's` here have done their job very well.

It is my opinion that the EU is running two `Test Models` side by side. Model one is the UK `1984` type, which is intended for those member states whose populations are more prone to resistance, and Model two, the `Brave New World` type, as demonstrated here in DK, for smaller, less rebellious peoples.

I have probably not done this topic justice, but if I have introduced you to what is happening here, that will be my work done. Denmark, is like nowhere else, and Danes are unlike anyone else, except perhaps the Swedes and Norwegians, who from what others have said, are undergoing similar programming.

Hope it wasn't too tedious.

Regards, Philip

PS. It should be said that of course not every Dane follows this pattern, but in my experience at least 96% of those I have met during the past ten years do. Two sites worth visiting for anyone interested in Denmark are www.heising.dk and

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27.01-2009 | 11:39 af (Slettet bruger)
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27.01-2009 | 16:09 af Lottomunken 1977 ....
Poul
Jeg er helt enig med dig der, jeg blev bare overrasket over at nogen kunne beskrive mit eget syn på danskerenes mangel sans på at kritisere så præcist, og hvordan han beskriver danskerene lever i deres egen lille lykkebobbel....
 
 
27.01-2009 | 23:45 af (Slettet bruger)
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28.01-2009 | 00:01 af Lottomunken 1977 ....
poul

inteligensen snobber ned af...:-)))

Den var sgu go'
Og du har desværre ret, men hvad skal man gøre i dette kristne/tv/ukritiske land når man høre til de 4% som ikke har sænket sin standard for tilfredshed...
 
 
16.09-2010 | 09:23 af Tobias Feldballe Petersen
god artikel, men hvad er der nu galt med at leve i sin egen lille lykkebobbel?

jeg tror personligt på at alle politikkerne rent faktisk vil os det bedste, jeg ved at jeg vil mine medmennesker det bedste, så hvorfor skulle politikkerne heller ikke det? Det er jo ikke ligefrem fordi at en begyndende politiker i Danmark tjener kassen. Det er jo ikke et hverv man går ind i for at score millionerne.

jeg synes det er synd når folk er kritiske, bare for at være kritiske. der er da rigtig meget godt ved at bo i Danmark. Specielt det sociale aspekt føler jeg er svært at finde hos andre folkeslag.
 
16.09-2010 | 15:08 af Lottomunken 1977 ....
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21.09-2010 | 13:31 af Lottomunken 1977 ....
Bobler har det med at springe, eftersom de jo er ekstremt skrøbelige....

Jeg ved ikke hvad der skulle være i vejen med at du lever i din egen lille lykkeboble, det er jo dit eget lille projekt om hvad sådan en skal indholde og hvor stor den skal være uden at springe..

Men....jeg tror personlig skriver du.
Er det en mening, en holdning, et håb eller mener du rent faktisk at du tobias tror personeligt på ærlige barmhjertelige politikere fordi de tænker på samme måde som dig ??
 
 
21.09-2010 | 13:36 af Lottomunken 1977 ....
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21.09-2010 | 22:39 af karin holt
- fatter ikke det ka lade sig gøre at være så unuanceret; da jeg var pur-ung og arbejdede i London havde nogenlunde de samme "alle over én kam"-holdninger til englændere, men jeg har heldigvis fundet ud af sidenhen, at mange englændere ikke er så fucked, som dem, jeg stødte på.. what a load of fucking bollox!!
 
22.09-2010 | 10:14 af Lottomunken 1977 ....
Og du mener ikke vi ser den holdning i dagens danmark år 2010 ???
 
 
22.09-2010 | 13:16 af Mark Hardy
Hate what I have to say as much as you like. But who the hell thinks, that after living in what is a foreign country to himself, that they automatically get the right to criticise, abuse, and write derogeratory things about a land and people he so obviously despises? ...If I had the time, I could so easily formulate similar comments about the UK, the USofA, and virtually every other country I have either lived, worked in, or travelled to. This educated person has the mental competence of one of the many Danish pigs he happily ate, at one of the many family parties that he was welcomed at with open arms. In my line of work, I listen to the rambling complaints of many non Danish residents, most of whom have lived in this little proud country for many years, about all things Danish including, of course, the natives. All I can say to you all is shame on you! You made the choice to commit yourself to one of these "stupid, ignorant, self satisfied, impolite, and any other crappy words you can think of", Danes, move to this country, and stay. Just leave! Take your sorry behinds back you your own "fantastic" countries, grow up, shut up, and leave the 96% of us alone.
But thanks for proving once again how ignorant, stupid and down right "English" a few of my, sorry to have to call them this, fellow countrymen can be. And yes, for those who do not know me personally, I am half American, a quarter Irish, a quarter English, and loving my life in Denmark, together with my Danish wife, half Danish son, and my wonderful Danish in-laws. My mother in law can, and does, serve the most perfect Flæskesteg in the whole of Denmark by the way. I would, and could have, written my comments in Danish but for the fact that most of the people whom I hope will read this, would probably not have been able to understand it because, after all, why bother to learn the language of the country they have settled in? Most of the "stupid Danes" under the age of 60 are able to speak English anyway. Learned, of course, in the free schooling, and further education that everyone is encouraged to take. And, imagine that, you even get paid to study. Yes taxes and consumer goods are more expensive here. But in how many other, so called great countries, can you have a comfortable, happy life on the wages of a bartender, waiter, dishwasher, street cleaner, or many of the other poorly paid jobs you can think of, as you can here in DK? With a tiny bit of intelligence and a little research, you could learn that a vast amount of tax money, go towards paying unemployment benefits and sick pay awarded to the tens of thousands of people who have moved to this country and worked as hard as possible to milk a welfare system, put in place to help the people in need, of as much money as possible. Not intentionally at first, I would hope, but after initially sussing it out, why bother working and paying your extreme taxes if you can live well enough without needing to? I don I would, and could have, written my comments in Danish but for the fact that most of the people whom I hope will read this, would probably not have been able to understand it because, after all, why bother to learn the language of the count...ry they have settled in? Most of the "stupid Danes" under the age of 60 are able to speak English anyway. Learned, of course, in the free schooling, and further education that everyone is encouraged to take. And, imagine that, you even get paid to study. Yes taxes and consumer goods are more expensive here. But in how many other, so called great countries, can you have a comfortably, happy life on the wages of a bartender, waiter, dishwasher, street cleaner, or many of the other poorly paid jobs you can think of, as you can here in DK? With a tiny bit of intelligence and a little research, you could learn that a vast amount of tax money, and we are talking about billions of Krones, go towards paying unemployment benefits and sick pay awarded to the tens of thousands of people who have moved to this country and worked as hard as possible to milk a welfare system, put in place to help the people in need, of as much money as possible. Not intensionally at first, I would hope, but after initially sussing it out, why bother working and paying your extreme taxes if you can live well enough without needing to work? I don't include refugees in this group, just all the tossers. And yes, some Danes too.

Hmmm, have a bad feeling that someone made that letter up just to see what kind of stupid things people like me :-) would reply. Fell for it hook, line and sinker. It must be a joke, cannot beleive that any normal, sane person could write such self depreciating crap about a country they lived/still live in. Boy am I a sucker or what? One born every minute hey.

If anyone cares to comment, please leave out the "must have lived in Denmark too long, plastic Dane or learn your English grammar/spelling first" jibes, heard them all before.
 
22.09-2010 | 13:26 af Mark Hardy
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22.09-2010 | 15:07 af Lottomunken 1977 ....
Det undrer mig meget at folk der er glade og lykkelige for at bo føle sig dansk og alt det der, altid har de samme argumenter, meninger og holdninger der er absolut ingen variation i logikken når deres rødvinssnakkende defination af samfundet møder kritik...

Altid det samme lort...

Og kunne du ikke nøjes med at komme med enjenkelt beskrivelse af hvad du sige istedet for det der sjusk,
 
 
22.09-2010 | 15:29 af Mark Hardy
I think that maybe my very late night rambling comments could have been misunderstood. A much shorter version would be as follows. To all of the people who have lived in Denmark, by thier own choice, for many years but have nothing but complaints about DK/danes could just slip away, quietly or loudly , for all I care. If you hate eating meat, and yet order roast lamb for your dinner for 15 years, who's the bigger fool. I think it is fantastic that because so many happy Danes and foriegners have simular arguements, opinions and reasoning, you feel it must be wrong and made ridicule of. How odd. Could it be possible that the "96%" might be on to something? But then again, to swim against strong currants has always been an admirable traight in human beings. And wild salmon, I believe.
 
22.09-2010 | 15:31 af Mark Hardy
currents
 
22.09-2010 | 17:30 af Mia Lehmann
Well, after reading this "interesting" piece of a rather twisted mind, I must object!! - og til Lottomunken - bare rolig, jeg vil fatte mig i korthed - dog på engelsk da jeg ønsker at alle har en chance for at følge denne debat. Vi danskere er vel så kultiverede og veluddannede at vi kan kommunikere på engelsk?! - Well, I'll get straight to my point. As a dane myself (born and raised in Denmark) I have seen the society develop to what it is today. Surely I don't believe that any danes think of our country as being "Utopia" or perfect in anyway. NO country in this world is... the development will never cease.. However, despite the flaws, there are many things to be proud of as dane. I see Mr. Phillip Jones dislikes our systemes, but in spite of his complaints, Denmark is the home of some of the worlds best registres - not to control the people, but to protect, to cure, to help and to ensure the people. Despite our contry's size, we have been noticed in the world, and praised for the way our system works. Not many countries can claim to have almost all of the population working, studying, and paying their taxes. Poverty is almost non-existent in Denmark compared to many countries in the world. and well, as for danish culture, it's a matter of taste. Love it or hate it, that is your own choise. I could go on, but I would rather not waste more of my time on this so-called article..

And cudos to you Mark Hardy - for speaking your mind and letting us see a different perspective next to this narrowminded, and clealy bitter man.
 
23.09-2010 | 23:59 af Mark Hardy
I am quite sure his misses caught him shagging her cat so she threw him out and got custody of thier 3 kids. He should move to Texas and make a fortune writing country and western songs. :-)
 
24.09-2010 | 02:05 af Lottomunken 1977 ....
Ja hvor gammel er man så..

Som sagt same old shit...
 
 
28.09-2010 | 22:12 af Jeg Aarhus
I think that "Native" English, "Native" Italian, Spanish,Holland etc always said that Country or City is better that other. the same the television and newspaper(this in Italy, and Spain I don't know from England but I don't think is different.. ), and Danish "native" said this too. What write he about the tax is wrong, Greece, Italy, Hungarian, Cech Republic, and other Country too they pay more tax that in Danmark, and they don't recieve anthingh back....Ventre in this years change a good Danish System, I think that if Danmark change is welfare and style for life, this will be a wroste Country...now I don't think that people are like depicet the police man.

for me the best people in the World are the International...and Internatinal people never find good way with "Native", but if the "International" understand this differences, they can spend good time with "native" people..
 
 
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